*She lumped tomatoes pt II

*It is entirely too shiny

*Wise

*More sodium than salt

*They finally cut off some heads

*She lumped tomatoes

*Today

*DLS #1

*With these hands!

*The moon blocks the sun making day into night


1. I ask you to do one effing thing
2. Did you?
3. The socks betray him
4. There will be none of that
5. Leave notes in his shirt pocket
6. Trained in the gentle art
7. Put me in coach
8. Our species may, in fact, survive
9.Swarm Swarm
10.During the wooing
11.BUT not private enough
12.The bottomless appetite
13.The first time we forget
14.This is a nice litmus test
15.To get the ball rolling
16.She invited you back to her place for coffee
17.Mary Magdalene or Eva Braun
18.It will only smell and make you queasy


   Thursday, July 07, 2005

Does not breed well

Dear Spain,

I hope you understand that the bastards that hit London today think the Brits will fold and turn tail like you did. You cannot react and fold to terrorists, it only validates their methods. Appeasing only leads to more attacks.

We can all criticize or even hate President Bush but no one can say he has appeased the fanatics. The only solution is what is happening in Iraq already... democratic governments and societies with more liberty. Fanatacism does not breed well in those conditions.

Sincerely,

hofzinser

there are 10 doodles

At 9:35 AM, Blogger WordWhiz said...

Amen, Uncle Hof!

 
At 10:10 AM, Blogger Foilwoman said...

Hof: The Spaniards voted their government out of power because the government tried to hide the ball and blame ETA (the Basque separatists) rather than investigate fully to find out that it was an Al-Qaeda planned attack. The government voted in were simply the people opposing the govt', who did have an opposing view on Iraq, but mainly were voted in because they didn't try to manipulate a national tragedy to play a political trump card. Bush isn't appeasing terrorists, no. He's inciting them. That's not good either.

 
At 10:15 AM, Blogger hofzinser said...

Inciting them?

Do you think they need to be incited?

Be careful you don't buy into a victim mentality. Does a rape victim wearing a short skirt incite her attacker? Did Clinton incite terrorists?

They have ample reasons on their lists to hate us, long LONG before any BUSH was president.

AS for your point on Spain. I don't disagree but a message was still sent (intentially or not):

If you attack us it will affect our decisions. Before the attacks the party in power now was way behind and posed little chance of being elected.

 
At 1:05 PM, Blogger Foilwoman said...

Hof: Given 9/11, no I don't think incitement was needed. But our actions to date have simply served as a recruiting tool. Iraq wasn't a part of 9/11, it had no WMDs, and it had no real connection to Al Qaeda. Now, to the extent there are WMDs in Iraq, they are weapons that we have managed to set loose, to the extent Al Qaeda has a foothold there, it's because we gave it to them, and we, the U.S., are basically setting ourselves up as the enemy of Islam.

Yes, Al Qaeda got what it wanted out of the Spanish election in the wake of the bombings, but if the Spanish conservative government hadn't lied like rugs on the issue of culpability for the bombings, the Spanish electorate would probably have sent a completely different message. They didn't like the dishonesty (unlike Bush's supporters, who seem to think lying about reasons for going to war is much less of a sin than lying about sex, for instance). Sorry, snotty comment got away from me.

But yes, the people who were already Al Qaeda didn't need inciting, but they have lots more allies now in the wake of the invasion of Iraq, the gutting of the Constitution especially regarding Muslim or Arab males, the disregard for the Geneva Convention, and the new standard for U.S. treatment of prisoners and detainees ("really, we're not as bad as the Gulag, or concentration camps, so why is anyone complaining.")

Hint: we want to be the good guys. That means we have to affirmatively treat people well. Not needlessly kill civilians, not lock people up for no reason, not torture people and say "Hey, it's not torture, they weren't permanently maimed. Who complains about electric shocks on the genitals anyway?"

 
At 1:21 PM, Blogger hofzinser said...

I hear ya, FW. I also disagree on many many points.

To boot, I'm not up to get deep into this yet. Maybe I'll post on it later.

You have increased my understanding of the Spanish election (I need to go out and read more about it). I was not aware them trying to pin it on the seperatists. I know at first they suspected them but beyond that...

Love ya!

 
At 4:42 PM, Blogger Lisa said...

I hundred million thousand kazillion agree. Thank you for saying it!

 
At 4:47 PM, Blogger AnonymousCoworker said...

I'll save you some research re: Spain.

 
At 8:10 PM, Blogger Foilwoman said...

Anonymous coworker: Thanks. I remember reading that piece before and couldn't find it. Appeasement, schmeazement. They were justifiably throwing Aznar out for being a dishonest cretin. Unfortunately, in the U.S., that seems to be qualification for the chief executive spot. Lying like a rug repeatedly and with conviction is not actually a good thing.

 
At 1:13 AM, Blogger mcgibfried said...

that sketch is oddly reminicent of a young patrick swayze...


oh.. and i did not nail the waitress... as my wife would clearly remove my nailing equipment.

 
At 12:19 AM, Blogger VegasGustan said...

Amen.

 

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